I probably wrote this long ago.
When oldest was 3-4, we shopped high schools.
Literally.
We went to school fairs. We went on high school tours (with a 3-4 year old). (Oldest wasn't helping us choose, he was just along for the ride.)
When we decided on the right high school, we worked backwards thru the feeder schools.
So we picked kindergarten based on the right high school.
For us, that turned out to be Catholic/Private school system.
Oldest ended up also going to a Catholic under graduate college. Youngest probably will too.
Oldest's grad school (5 year doctorate program) is public. Middle's undergrad is public too.
Even though our kids were/are all in private high school, where almost all the kids go on to some level of higher education, the guidance department is not independently proactive when it comes to college, in my opinion.
The families need to take action, show interest, make college visits, plan themselves. The guidance department does not get the kids into college. The parents/student get the child in college.
Colleges visit our high school on a regular basis. A service comes in and is available to give families an idea of what level of college financing might be available (based on income/circumstances). Guidance is very good with meeting with the kids each year for high school class planning.
But they do not look at every single high school class a student should take.
So things like oldest's need to take high school calculus to make it through college calculus does not happen through guidance. It happens through the parents/student.
Another class similar to the calculus situation is anatomy/physiology. If a kid thinks they are possibly going into any form of health in college, they need to take anatomy/ physiology in high school. Some college programs use anatomy/physiology as their weed-out class. Kids are required to take it first semester freshman year, one chance to pass, must pass with a high grade, will flunk out of the entire program based on that one class.
Youngest and I had a very good college admission meeting yesterday. Very good.
This is the same school where middle and oldest took college classes while in high school.
Youngest is a sophomore in high school. She is planning classes for junior and senior year right now. She will also take college classes senior year. She wants to pick college classes that will count for high school and also for her four year college in the future. In order to have all that work, yes, have to figure it out sophomore year.
The college advisor yesterday made me realize that much of what we expect from high school guidance actually is available in the college admissions offices.
Yesterday's darling woman took the time to talk to youngest about the three colleges youngest is considering at this point.
The darling woman showed youngest where/how to find the course requirements at all three schools online and suggested youngest figure out 4-6 classes common to all three schools.
(All of these lists were specifically talking about freshman year for computer science majors, for youngest. The lists were very different.)
In other words, she taught youngest how to think about it.
Then (as the next step) she suggested that we talk to each of the three schools to see if credits transfer between the local school and their school. She said that the registrar is often the right department for those questions or the specific department (if the child knows their major).
For one college (this will be the one I will refer to for the rest of this post) the woman had printed out all the information to show youngest the level of math and science required in this field.
It was a major list. That did not intimidate youngest. Youngest thought two things - she was excited to see many of the classes listed and she realized she was going to pass her doctorate bound brother in level of math classes. We do not have sibling rivalry, but we do have healthily competitive kids. GPA comparisons are common between youngest and oldest (who are 8 years apart).
In looking at this list, yesterday, we realized youngest needs to take physics in high school. It was worth the appointment just to hear that one word - physics - because we might have missed it.
Only three science classes are required for high school graduation - biology and chemistry and one elective.
Youngest took honors biology her freshman year, is in honors chemistry now, is planning to take AP Chemistry (advanced placement) as a junior. We were thinking that was all the science she needed. Wrong.
She is now picking up a fourth science class senior year, one credit above what she needs, because she will be taking a lot of physics if she is in computer science at that one college she is considering.
Discrete math was also on the list for that same college. Middle and oldest both took discrete in high school. Youngest would have to drop calculus to take discrete. Oldest said she would be able to handle a college level discrete class without discrete in high school. That it was more important to take two years of high school calculus (she will have three levels of college calculus at this same college).
So yes, great meeting yesterday. The local college admissions woman knew youngest would be at her school for four classes and then moving on to a four year college. She talked to youngest about how to make sure youngest was taking what she needed in high school to prepare for college. How to take the right four classes at the local college. And how to ask the right questions at future colleges.
What I realized in all these high school/college discussions this week at our house and at the meeting yesterday is the information we (as parents) desire from the high school guidance offices is available from the college admissions offices. But one has to be talking to the colleges by sophomore (high school) year in order to implement the information.
If you are new to reading me, by the end of the summer after youngest's freshman year, she had done six college visits. Of those six, she had a real interest in three. Those six were carefully chosen. It does not surprise me that she would love the three she loved.
We are going back to one of the three (the one with the specific class list I referenced above) over youngest's spring break. We are going back to the other two (they are fairly close to each other) first thing this summer. At all three college (2nd) visits we are meeting with computer science people (we did general tours the first time). We are looking at class requirements. That will give us enough time to change her high school classes for junior and senior year.
She is pretty sure she wants to be in math/science field, but not anything in the health care field at this point. Probably in computer sciences. She was considering law at one point, but has now dropped that thought.
When I call to schedule visits, yes, sometimes I get a slight "she is too young" reaction. Not always, but sometimes. I explain, very simply why she is not too young. I firmly believe initial visits need to be done by sophomore year to be sure they are taking the right classes junior and senior year.